Subject	False logic and false math.
Posted by	ConVerTT on March 01, 2013 at 12:25 PM
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In Reply To	A consumption tax increases tax on the poor, who spend posted by zellamay on March 01, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Message	The poor spend less than the rich? Right. And the poor are carrying the tax burden? Right. Do some simple math on what an earner of $50k spends and pays versus an earner of $500k. Oh BTW, saving and investing also have an important role in the economy. If fact I would argue that investment is more effective than taxation at creating wealth for all citizens.
Follow Ups	New law in Georgia - JMartz 08:32:38 03/01/13 All the government cares about is getting money. (n/m) - michaell32 (FL) 09:09:03 03/01/13 Cause corporations and the rich hide their money from taxes. (n/m) - Aqualung 10:16:24 03/01/13 A consumption or flat tax would reduce that. (n/m) - JMartz 10:27:57 03/01/13 Re: A consumption or flat tax would reduce that. - Jonezy 11:05:07 03/01/13 A consumption tax increases tax on the poor, who spend - zellamay 11:59:17 03/01/13 False logic and false math. - ConVerTT 12:25:35 03/01/13 I meant as a percentage of income. Poor people spend 100% - zellamay 16:59:42 03/01/13 Sure, but percentage is irrelevant when you consider the - ConVerTT 18:45:39 03/01/13 You are right again: "percentage", and "absolute" are - zellamay 19:49:10 03/01/13 The "pundits" do not have a uniform opinion on his issue - ConVerTT 21:11:30 03/01/13 Sorry, I searched (cause I'm a curious guy who wants to - zellamay 23:14:16 03/01/13 I misunderstood your last point. I thought you were - ConVerTT 13:05:02 03/02/13 Not true - ZXoltan 12:27:52 03/01/13 It would increase effective tax rate on the poor. - dpjax 12:58:02 03/01/13 A consumption tax by its nature doesnt let rich folks hide - ZXoltan 13:32:17 03/01/13 Except the very very rich. You can see this if you look - zellamay 17:09:36 03/01/13 Ah yes the ever present boogeyman, the super duper duper - LJZTT 03:05:39 03/02/13 gee, who else pitted the poor against the middle-class - LJZTT 03:09:59 03/02/13 Yup. LJ's dead-on here. So sad. - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 04:05:05 03/02/13 You are what I'm talking about when I say "infighting". - zellamay 08:13:39 03/02/13 No, it's true. It's called a "regressive tax" because - zellamay 17:05:16 03/01/13 And where do those so-called "shelters" come from? - LJZTT 04:05:47 03/02/13 You make some good points. I think the hole in your - zellamay 16:05:52 03/02/13 Or, in the words of a pundit, quoted from lower in this - zellamay 16:18:01 03/02/13 ^^^^ This is correct. (n/m) - Whip 14:21:59 03/01/13 in bizarro world maybe (n/m) - LJZTT 02:37:45 03/02/13 Re: in bizarro world maybe - Whip 15:52:11 03/03/13 they hide the money they EARN from those who STEAL - LJZTT 02:31:38 03/02/13 oh nevermind, I figured out the answer - LJZTT 03:13:11 03/02/13 IMO it's immoral to knowingly allow the gov to take ur - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 04:13:51 03/02/13 This isn't new in MA - s3trios 11:34:38 03/01/13 Yeah, we pay sales tax when registering, based on actual - BigTDogg (MA) 14:40:50 03/01/13 Damn Government their always in your pocket - njz 12:05:22 03/01/13 "Don't Steal, The Government Hates Competition" (n/m) - LJZTT 04:41:25 03/02/13 Nothing will change until people start voting out idiots who - Z DNA 12:35:31 03/01/13 You give people too much credit. - bartz32tt 13:57:58 03/01/13 As Pogo said: "We have seen the enemy, and it is us." (n/m) - zellamay 17:14:58 03/01/13 Don't want to make this a political discussion... - Z DNA 00:22:52 03/02/13 Hitler is not a monster that lives in Hollywood folklore - LJZTT 03:22:27 03/02/13 I don't fall victim to trigger words - bartz32tt 10:21:33 03/02/13 Gotta agree with Bart again. "Mainstream media" is a - zellamay 16:15:42 03/02/13 lol, you left out a few, more egregious, offenders (n/m) - LJZTT 09:41:03 03/04/13 Yea, I left out many offenders. I pick on Fox cause it's - zellamay 23:05:03 03/04/13 debatable :) - bartz32tt 12:11:42 03/05/13 However, - bartz32tt 12:16:25 03/05/13 Right on. So why don't we replace every Senator and - zellamay 17:13:21 03/01/13 yeah! down with the Reichstag!!.......er, I mean, Congress - LJZTT 04:21:55 03/02/13 voters are too uneducated/ignorant - LJZTT 04:40:34 03/02/13 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 06:19:55 03/03/13 I thought the ad velorem tax was ridiculous when I moved in (n/m) - komplexZTT 14:13:28 03/01/13 I dont think most folks would mind paying taxes if.... - ZXoltan 15:13:44 03/01/13 I have homes in both GA and FL. I keep FL residency - JMartz 16:02:19 03/01/13 But if you earn money in GA, you are still required to pay - ZXoltan 17:22:19 03/01/13 Thankfully I don't. My wife does but at least one - JMartz 21:13:57 03/02/13 Loose lips sink ships - njz 19:52:27 03/01/13 That's not strictly a government problem - Broke_as_**** 20:02:18 03/01/13 I like this chart better - ConVerTT 13:15:55 03/02/13
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